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ChoosySuzy
WoLFer
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10 Oct 2009 : 17:02:20
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The proposed incinerator is potentially one of the biggest issues to affect Ware for decades.
There has been a lot of discussion about this on another thread but I'm sure many of us are keen to know what our elected representatives on the Town, District and County Councils think. Even more importantly I'm sure we'd all like to know whether those who are members of the relevant committees will be voting for or against granting permission for the incinerator.
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tonyappleton
Senior Member
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2009 : 20:25:09
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| I'm sure most of the Councillors will be for it after they've been generously wined and dined by Biffa! |
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spear
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10 Oct 2009 : 23:32:35
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As has been said before, councillors will not comment on here.
The only Ware councillor on the relevant committee is Malcolm Alexander whose has been quoted on the other thread. |
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IGS
WoLFer
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Posted - 11 Oct 2009 : 01:37:50
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Originally posted by spear
As has been said before, councillors will not comment on here.
The only Ware councillor on the relevant committee is Malcolm Alexander whose has been quoted on the other thread.
More people seem to read this forum than the Ware Town Council one so I think it is about time that one or more of our elected representatives, on ALL tiers, made a contribution here. As I've pointed out before, on another thread, the WTC site is not that easy to navigate and there have been some glaring errors in the minutes that have been posted on it. Spear you seem to know quite a lot that goes on in the Council; are you a Councillor? |
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spear
Advanced Member
1380 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2009 : 17:35:40
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ian.ball
WoLFer & Moderator
United Kingdom
2785 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 09:45:02
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The response has been deafening hasn't it?  |
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spear
Advanced Member
1380 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 09:59:53
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Originally posted by tonyappleton
I'm sure most of the Councillors will be for it after they've been generously wined and dined by Biffa!
Of course they will, particularly the ones who live in Ware. After all what does it matter if your Grandchildren are born with 2 heads so long as you've had a good dinner out of it. |
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FurtiveBertie
WoLFer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 10:12:59
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what does it matter if your Grandchildren are born with 2 heads
But aren't two head supposed to be better than one?
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Stephen
Average Member
United Kingdom
151 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 12:59:54
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| If a councillor expresses an opinion about a development other than at a planning meeting, aren't they then barred from voting as they are seen to have gone to the meeting without an open mind? So if any councillor contributes here, they wouldn't be able to vote when an application comes up. |
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ChoosySuzy
WoLFer
United Kingdom
645 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 13:24:57
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Originally posted by Stephen
If a councillor expresses an opinion about a development other than at a planning meeting, aren't they then barred from voting as they are seen to have gone to the meeting without an open mind? So if any councillor contributes here, they wouldn't be able to vote when an application comes up.
Fair point - although that would presumably only apply to the councillors that are members of the appropriate committee? I'm not aware of any ethical reason why other councillors couldn't engage in an online dialogue with the people they represent.
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Whereaami
Senior Member
United Kingdom
814 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 14:36:24
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ian.ball
WoLFer & Moderator
United Kingdom
2785 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 14:39:55
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| I'm not sure that online response argument makes sense - how is it different responding to direct questions online as opposed to direct questions put to your councillor in a public meeting or rally? |
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Wickenlady
Junior Member
United Kingdom
85 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2009 : 13:35:48
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ChoosySuzy
WoLFer
United Kingdom
645 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2009 : 18:29:07
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Thank you for that information Wickenlady. Interesting that the incinerator scheme has come to light just after they've all been safely elected for the next four years...
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Scottman
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 : 19:12:08
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Hold on one minute. The town and district councillors are the agents of our lowest form of democracy in the UK. They are there to represent your (and my) opinions, not their own. It is important that we all tell them what we want them to sau, and do, on our behalf. They do need to pay attention to the demands of central government in the future management of waste in the UK, but that doesn't mean they must agree to building something pretty but stupid on top of many local houses.
Or we vote them out, right ? |
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Dusty
Senior Member
United Kingdom
685 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2009 : 20:48:25
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Originally posted by Wickenlady
You asked for replies from councillors - this is what was written in the visitors book on the first day of the exhibition. Cllr Victoria Shaw (of Hampton Hill) wrote 'Building very interesting. This is the way forward.' Cllr Ralph Gilbert (of Bishop's Stortford) wrote 'A well designed scheme.' A person called Bell of Buntingford (maybe Ball, Bull or even Boll, writing was awful)and who didn't identify himself as a councillor but followed on from the above remarks wrote 'Impressed with the design and colour' and finally a person called Greatrex (of Hanbury Drive) who again did not identify themselves as a councillor wrote 'Design is good and sympathetic to surroundings. Stack height is only concern.' Other councillors signed the book but did not offer a comment.
Looks like this mob will be barred from voting anyway (if Stephen's post is correct) as they have expressed an opinion other than at a council meeting.
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Craig
Project Leader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 : 21:01:32
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If a councillor expresses an opinion about a development other than at a planning meeting, aren't they then barred from voting as they are seen to have gone to the meeting without an open mind?
Can anyone confirm this? Sounds a bit odd to me that councillors can't discuss pubic concerns outside of a meeting. The meeting should be when they present the opinions of the public.
Where did you hear this Stephen?
Besides, I think the names mentioned here are district councillors, not county councillors.
Our County Councillors are David Andrews and Rosemary Cheswright, both who are on the Waste Management Cabinet Panel. |
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Dusty
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United Kingdom
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