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Winter
Wolfer
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 22:36:25
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Last night I had the horrid experience of catching the last train from Liverpool Street to Ware.
It was a train filled with drunken louts, underage drinkers and the like.
Sadly I ended up involved in an altercation before we'd even left Liverpool Street where I was subjected to several minutes of vile abuse from a chap and his girlfriend.*
NXEA have their security people on the trains during the day time, I have caught the train back to Ware at around 1400hrs much of last week and their security chaps have been patrolling up and down the train along with ticket inspectors.
Yet on the last train, the one there is most likely to be disorder there is no one. This is further exacerbated by the fact the barriers are left open and there are no ticket checks in place.
It is an experience that would put me off getting the last train home again.
*Police action pending. |
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Pat-H
WoLFer
United Kingdom
2404 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 22:52:04
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Yup been there too many times to count.
Its no fun and potential dangerous but if you have to use the train you have little choice.
Don't forget it's not run as a service it's a profit centre. |
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Winter
Wolfer
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 22:58:56
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| Yes there is no element of service to it. I am quite shocked, maybe a little naively, never having got the last train back on a Saturday night. |
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Scottman
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1757 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 23:04:06
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| Well if you of all people are shocked then heaven help the rest of us. We aren't in plain clothes and/or carrying warrant cards. |
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Winter
Wolfer
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 23:06:28
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| Sadly while I was carrying my warrant card I didn't have any of my other stuff and I think it would have been folly to try anything more than calling the Transport Police and/or dealing with it the next day... |
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2138 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 11:03:32
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| Sounds dreadful, but the last train is just as likely to be full of sleeping drunks as nasty ones. And I got hassle from a couple of kids on a train at 4.30 in the afternoon last week. |
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stumped
Average Member
United Kingdom
120 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 15:19:07
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Winter
This has been the case for years. I am not easily intimidated but the people you meet in those circumstances stopped me from going out after work very often when I worked in London. |
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Scottman
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1757 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 16:42:52
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Of course, if all trains had inspectors/conductors, and all stations were staffed, then half of this nonsense would go away. And the other half would get knicked.
Its just dumb, isn't it .... |
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Winter
Wolfer
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 17:40:21
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Originally posted by mb1
Sounds dreadful, but the last train is just as likely to be full of sleeping drunks as nasty ones. And I got hassle from a couple of kids on a train at 4.30 in the afternoon last week.
At 1630 there are more likely to be some level of official from NXEA around though. Even if, as today, their ticket inspectors don't bother checking the tickets of large groups of youths because "they probably don't have tickets and it's too much hassle". |
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Scottman
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1757 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 20:24:58
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Well if that's the attitude from a private company then perhaps we had better nationalise it,
and let everyone use it for free. What exactly is the point in paying your fare ? |
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 21:08:11
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| It is pretty bad. The kids that hassled me didn;t get their tickets checked because they abused the ticket inspector on the train and then got off at the next station. he just left them be. |
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Winter
Wolfer
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 21:13:20
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It does rather make a mockery of the whole system if those who cause most of the problems, and who travel without a ticket are not targeted yet others are.
Sadly it would seem that as the Transport Police are more focused on London we see very little of them. Which does nothing to make our rail line safer. |
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