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Scottman
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13 Apr 2011 : 13:00:55
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I have just received my first election leaflets, for the local elections on May 5th.
Delighted to see that one of the prime movers of the 'Save Our Green Spaces' campaign, Roz Standley, is standing for Ware Chadwell. She is clearly supporting all efforts to prevent the further and inappropriate development of Ware through additional housing on current green spaces to the south of the town, and the threatened incinerator at Westmill, via a Conservative ticket. Mark Pope is standing again, on the same ticket.
So, excellent news that at least two prospective councillors are willing to defend the Green Belt and the character and quality of this town. And it's good to see that at last the local Conservatives have cleaned up their faux pas in a previous leaflet and have come out very clearly against the prospective incinerator.
But a great pity that Mark Pope does not carry this promise through to his East Herts Council election leaflet. Here he praises and takes credit for the ongoing increase in kerbside recycling, and portrays other green credentials, but is quite silent here on his IQ (incinerator question). He promises to knock on as many doors as possible before the election (in Chadwell Ward) and needs to be closely questioned to ensure that he will reject the incinerator at District level, and campaign for its complete rejection at County level (where the decision will be made).
Joined up thinking please, you Conservatives !
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WickenMan
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Apr 2011 : 14:24:44
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| And indeed, Scottman, every councillor who is up for election in Ware needs to be questioned about his or her views re these important questions. If the answers are non-committal then look around for another councillor who will represent Ware in the way you want. |
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Whereaami
Senior Member
United Kingdom
814 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2011 : 15:29:45
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| And just as important,encourage everyone to actually vote!.We also have a rare opportunity to have a say on the voting system. |
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spear
Advanced Member
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Posted - 13 Apr 2011 : 15:57:53
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Originally posted by Scottman
it's good to see that at last the local Conservatives have cleaned up their faux pas
I understand he isn't running. |
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spear
Advanced Member
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Posted - 13 Apr 2011 : 21:42:01
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| John Wing was doing the rounds tonight - if past experience is anything to go by he will be the only one. |
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ChoosySuzy
WoLFer
United Kingdom
645 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2011 : 20:29:50
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To continue Helen M's thread re. local elections and the proposed incinerator ...
I agree with Helen that the May elections are one of the very few opportunities we have to make our voices heard about the proposed incinerator. So where do the parties stand?
I've just had an election leaflet from the Liberal Democrats pushed through my letter box. Looks like the Lib Dems will definitely oppose any proposals for an incinerator in Ware which is good news.
Recent Conservative publications indicate that Conservative councillors are in favour of a Biffa-run incinerator although last month's Town Council meeting shows that there are a few honourable exceptions, namely Jeanette Taylor and Alan Warman.
I'd be very interested to hear what view the Labour candidates are taking - is anyone able to enlighten us?
Like Helen.M I take the view that the proposed incinerator would be a disaster for Ware and I have no intention of voting for any candidate who supports it.
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ian.ball
WoLFer & Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Apr 2011 : 22:14:41
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Well, I seem to recall at least some of the LibDems and 'Tories were in favour of the incinerator when Biffa first proposed the plans, so that's changed! I think political parties that actually listen to their electorate and change their opinion is a good thing and should be encouraged, but I do wonder if we can trust such "promises"?
What evidence is there that promises such as these will be kept? What is the track record for each party on keeping promises?
Personally I can't see why any politician would ever think an incinerator in that location would be a vote winner even if you agree with using a "solution" that locks you in to a 30 year lifespan and discourages better alternatives such as reducing waste at source. |
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IGS
WoLFer
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Posted - 16 Apr 2011 : 00:40:34
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Originally posted by ChoosySuzy
To continue Helen M's thread re. local elections and the proposed incinerator ...
I agree with Helen that the May elections are one of the very few opportunities we have to make our voices heard about the proposed incinerator. So where do the parties stand?
I've just had an election leaflet from the Liberal Democrats pushed through my letter box. Looks like the Lib Dems will definitely oppose any proposals for an incinerator in Ware which is good news.
Recent Conservative publications indicate that Conservative councillors are in favour of a Biffa-run incinerator although last month's Town Council meeting shows that there are a few honourable exceptions, namely Jeanette Taylor and Alan Warman.
I'd be very interested to hear what view the Labour candidates are taking - is anyone able to enlighten us?
Like Helen.M I take the view that the proposed incinerator would be a disaster for Ware and I have no intention of voting for any candidate who supports it.
I know for a fact that Labour are against it; it would be a stupid idea to have something like that monstrosity so close to where people live. It would be telling people with breathing problems (asthma, bronchitis etc) that they are not welcome in Ware. I for one am totally against this. |
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ChoosySuzy
WoLFer
United Kingdom
645 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2011 : 10:20:01
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Thanks for the clarification IGS, that's good to know. To summarise then, it currently looks like Labour and Lib Dem candidates are against the proposed incinerator and the Conservatives are in favour (with a few dissenters).
Unless anyone else has more up-to-date information?
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Barzey
Senior Member
United Kingdom
786 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2011 : 14:45:13
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What evidence is there that promises such as these will be kept? What is the track record for each party on keeping promises?
One thing is for sure, Politicians never seem to keep their promisses. The only time they begin to show a little bit of concern, common sense and responsibility to any possible voters is prior to an election; and as usual, it all soon dissappears along with the ballot boxes. |
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New Boy
Average Member
United Kingdom
380 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 22:32:22
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Richmond Close Resident
Junior Member
United Kingdom
71 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 23:03:35
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| Re incinerator issue: I was most impressed with Jeanette Taylor who knocked on our door and gave us a full 10mins discussing in unambiguous terms why she is against the incinerator. George Powell on the other hand did not reply either to an email or a letter asking his views on this, yet wrote about it in a Ware Matters leaflet leaving one guess about his view. Would be good to have WTC against it but is that worth much or indeed anything if Herts CC say YES? |
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Aardvaark
Average Member
United Kingdom
224 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 09:32:20
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| New Boy - I don't think any of those standing will have voted in any debate on Library opening hours. That's dealt with by Herts CC and we are voting for Town and East Herts District councillors this time. |
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spear
Advanced Member
1380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 21:32:19
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Originally posted by ChoosySuzy
Thanks for the clarification IGS, that's good to know. To summarise then, it currently looks like Labour and Lib Dem candidates are against the proposed incinerator and the Conservatives are in favour (with a few dissenters).
Unless anyone else has more up-to-date information?
Got the Conservative leaflets for Trinity today - can't see any mention of the incinerator at all. |
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2140 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 22:24:06
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| We got the Trinity Ward leaflets too. The Town Council one says the Tories will fight the incinerator. The East Herts one doesn't mention the issue. Doesn;t seem to me as if they have a real commitment on the issue, but are just playing it locally for votes. Are there any Tories on here to make the case for their party? |
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2140 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 08:18:43
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| Although let's be fair, some of the Tories are genuine. But some of them simply aren't. |
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WickenMan
Average Member
United Kingdom
415 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 10:52:10
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| Please everybody - if the incinerator is a big issue to you, then seek out your candidates by e-mail or letter and ASK them. Don't necessarily wait for them to knock on your door, be proactive. You can then decide which of them are vote-seeking by saying they will vote against the incinerator and which of them is genuine. Elections are all about choices - use your choice wisely. |
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tonyappleton
Senior Member
United Kingdom
651 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 12:36:49
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Originally posted by Barzey
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What evidence is there that promises such as these will be kept? What is the track record for each party on keeping promises?
One thing is for sure, Politicians never seem to keep their promisses. The only time they begin to show a little bit of concern, common sense and responsibility to any possible voters is prior to an election; and as usual, it all soon dissappears along with the ballot boxes.
On a national level the Lib Dems are the least trustworthy. They've broken most of their general election pledges in return for a few token ministers to prop up a Conservative led 'coalition'. |
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Whereaami
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 : 13:30:49
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Originally posted by tonyappleton
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Originally posted by Barzey
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What evidence is there that promises such as these will be kept? What is the track record for each party on keeping promises?
One thing is for sure, Politicians never seem to keep their promisses. The only time they begin to show a little bit of concern, common sense and responsibility to any possible voters is prior to an election; and as usual, it all soon dissappears along with the ballot boxes.
On a national level the Lib Dems are the least trustworthy. They've broken most of their general election pledges in return for a few token ministers to prop up a Conservative led 'coalition'.
Doesnt mean they are locally. Many of them have served the town very well over the years. I wish local elections were more about what the individual candidates can offer, rather than the party they represent. |
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Local Elections - May 2011
