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Warewolf
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 09:59:59
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Carnival, Not Just Cards, Clintons, Edwards, L Collections & Art shop. Have I missed any?
The high street will look a bit sad and does anyone know what is going in the old tanning salon in Amwell End? |
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JudieT
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 11:08:57
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Originally posted by Warewolf
Carnival, Not Just Cards, Clintons, Edwards, L Collections & Art shop. Have I missed any?
The high street will look a bit sad and does anyone know what is going in the old tanning salon in Amwell End?
Judging by the equipment that's been going in, I'd say another tanning salon. |
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REG
Senior Member
United Kingdom
529 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 12:16:08
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| Its a sad sign of the times and very much noticeable just how many shops are closed or pending closure! Such a terrible shame and when the High Street looks so amazing what with the Bunting and Ware in Bloom displays. |
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skippy
Advanced Member
1019 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 12:51:08
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It's the same old comment
"if you don't use it, you lose it"
Too much emphasis on getting goods at the cheapest prices going to the out of town supermarkets etc and then complaining when the smaller shops close
Just what do you expect to be done then?
What really amazes me is if it is because people need things as cheap as possible, how do the expensive hair and beauty salons still manage to keep open, we are becoming swamped with them! |
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steve
Moderator
United Kingdom
1350 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 13:57:54
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| Clinton's? I thought they were staying open. |
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Saffron
Average Member
United Kingdom
161 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 14:29:53
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| I think some Clintons are staying but the one in Ware is definitely closing but they don't know when. |
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skippy
Advanced Member
1019 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 15:51:54
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Originally posted by steve
Clinton's? I thought they were staying open.
When did you last go up the High Street then Steve, It's plasterd all over their windows in full size posters? |
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Mel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1296 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 16:46:41
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| Not Just Cards is closing, blow I buy all my cards from there. |
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skippy
Advanced Member
1019 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 16:55:54
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We still have Ware Cards as well as other outlets in the town, so losing Clintons is no loss, just a shame that Not Just Cards are closing though
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 17:21:13
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| The closing posters for Clintons went up a few days ago, I won't miss that particular shop but it is a shame that the High Street is taking this downturn. |
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Warewolf
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1452 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 17:55:45
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Originally posted by Mel
Not Just Cards is closing, blow I buy all my cards from there.
Lease is up for renewal! |
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skippy
Advanced Member
1019 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 18:18:27
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It is in times like this that the large companies will suddenly find that they have stretched themselves too far and have to close large numbers of branches.
With only 1 or two outlets, local companies are much stronger, but only if people use them, the 'downturn' is the fault of the residents who choose not to use them. |
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mb1
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2138 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2012 : 22:32:45
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| Surely Skippy the downturn is the fault of greedy banks and stupid deflationary economic policies strangling the economy. Those two combined mean that people pay higher taxes, get smaller salaries and have less to spend in local shops, which therefore go out of business. |
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Mel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1296 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 06:50:19
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friant
Average Member
198 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 09:28:32
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A large portion of blame for the reduction in "real" shopping experiences where you get to pick up the product and talk to a person who knows the product is the internet.
We don't have a shop but sell motorhome, caravan and camping accessories at 15 specialist outdoor shows through the year. We pay for space at the show, two vehicles to take stock and the associated costs for chip/pin machines, diesel etc.
Time and time again people will take the opportunity to have a good look at our products, ask our advice and then check for the lowest internet price ( who don't have our overheads ) on their smart phones and we don't make the sale.
Before long there won't be the option to see items in a shop, we'll all have to trust to the internet. |
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shinybeans
Average Member
110 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 10:49:31
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Gutted to hear about carnival - brilliant shop, huge range and great service.  |
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spear
Advanced Member
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Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 11:00:22
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Originally posted by friant
A large portion of blame for the reduction in "real" shopping experiences where you get to pick up the product and talk to a person who knows the product is the internet.
We don't have a shop but sell motorhome, caravan and camping accessories at 15 specialist outdoor shows through the year. We pay for space at the show, two vehicles to take stock and the associated costs for chip/pin machines, diesel etc.
Time and time again people will take the opportunity to have a good look at our products, ask our advice and then check for the lowest internet price ( who don't have our overheads ) on their smart phones and we don't make the sale.
Before long there won't be the option to see items in a shop, we'll all have to trust to the internet.
Quite, was in a wallpaper shop and a woman was looking through the pattern books, asked the owner for paper and pencil so she could write the codes down and was very put out when the owner refused - offering to write them in her book for when the customer came back after making her decision - easy to guess what she was doing.
I think the shop closures have little to do with the downturn and (as above) everything to do with the internet and buying cheap - shops going are those with direct internet competition, why do expensive hair/beauty salons survive - you can't have your hair done online.
Good job ASDA never came it would have led to an empty High St - Oh |
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JuNu
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 12:07:29
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My take on this...
1/ Shops have stuff which you can buy cheaper either online or at larger stores.
2/ Salons/Pubs/Restaurants/Tanning/Nails have a lower overhead and thus higher profit margin (especially salons where I guess the biggest cost would be rent and staffing).
3/ People can spend the money they save from 1/ at 2/
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skippy
Advanced Member
1019 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jul 2012 : 15:11:57
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Guys
for 6 years, I worked in a specialist retail outlet as a manager.
Daily I was faced with "I can get this cheaper at so and so", yet they completely forgot the personalised service that I provided them, the fact that I knew what they wanted and would order specific items as a on off just for them etc.
All they considered was either the cheapest price.
The Internet shopping spree and 'click and collect' culture that has only increased the lazyness of actually visiting a shopping highstreet to see not only what they were directly looking for, but the spin-off for the highstreet of seeing all other outlets that they may then purchase from.
As for the comments on rents, this is not as large a problem as the actual loss or trade in the first place, no matter how cheap the rent/rates were, without actual footfall from customers
The problem IS the customers.
They moan about child labour, but as long as what they buy is the cheapest, they just don't really care where it came from.
They moan about empty shops, but will not spend even £1.00 to park and shop in a highstreet, because they can park for free in a supermarket
They moan about a lack of choice, but through their own actions, they are reducing that choice.
The claim of lack of income being a factor is rather laughable, when they can still afford £30+ a month on TV, Hair and beauty treatments of £40+ at time and spend a lot of cash on beer and smokes (just look at the amount of smpkers and drinkers outside the vine etc).
It is time that the LOCAL population took steps to save its LOCAL services and stop trying to put the blame on everone else.
If it were a case of low incomes, these whould be the first things that would suffer as they are an indulgence. |
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