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Topic ID 3213
07/10/2008 by olive
Ware Park Mill
A number of very professional posters have appeared around Ware Park and Bengeo alerting pople to some planning applications that have been put in for Ware Park Mill (I never know whether to post this on the Ware or Hertford forums as it is slap bang between the two amd more accessible from Hertford despite the name).
Anyway they are major proposals for development down a quiet unsurfaced road. Quite why after years of dereliction during an economic boom, this is seen as a good time to propose development I'm not sure.
Tha applications are available at:
http://e-services.eastherts.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/Wphappcriteria.showApplications?regfromdate=15-sep-2008®todate=21-sep-2008&DispResultsAs=wphappsresweek1
and are listed as
3/08/1384/FP Refurbishment of Mill House, rebuilding of 5-storey building and erection of two Ware Park Mill, Hertford, HERTS
3/08/1385/FP Provision of permanent residential moorings. Ware Park Mill, Hertford, HERTS
3/08/1386/FP Conversion of barn to three bedroom dwelling with single storey extension, erect Ware Park Mill, Hertford, HERTS
3/08/1388/FP Conversion of triple garage, including roofspace, to one bedroom dwelling with i Ware Park Mill, Hertford, HERTS
This is not in accordance with the local plan and represents a considerable development in this quiet spot and would have considerable impact on the view from the towpath and the footpath that runs past.
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Reply ID 35384
07/10/2008 by Andy B
Is this not the derelict property along side the river?
If so someone started work on it years ago but never finished it.
Reply ID 35388
07/10/2008 by ian.ball
I think this is a much bigger development though to "restore" the 5 storey mill and to add a number of other properties each side of it.
Reply ID 35406
08/10/2008 by olive
quote:
Originally posted by Andy B
Is this not the derelict property along side the river?
If so someone started work on it years ago but never finished it.
That's correct but as Ian says it is much more than a restoration but a considerable development in the green belt between Hertford and ware
Reply ID 35424
08/10/2008 by Moulder
It's ASDA attacking from the rear ........[:D][:p]
Reply ID 35433
09/10/2008 by spear
I thought you were being serious until I got to this bit:-
"EHDC............will have the
community and quality of life at heart before profit making
opportunity."
Reply ID 35441
09/10/2008 by Jay
Forgive me for asking, but whereabouts is this? I am thinking its between Hertford and Ware on the river bend on the opposite bank just before you get to the common? The building that has a new roof on it?
Reply ID 35443
09/10/2008 by friant
that's right Jay
Reply ID 35444
09/10/2008 by Jay
Thanks Friant. I would oppose that too. Surely its a conservation area of somesort. Greedy developers again....anything to make a quick buck, hope they fall flat on their faces. What about the other house further along, hope they oppose it too.
Reply ID 35738
20/10/2008 by Newfy
Update for you!
The Hertford Town Council met last week and will be submitting their response to East Herts Planning to oppose the scheme based on inappropriate access and contradicting green belt principles. Please submit your objections to Mr Michael Chalk at East Herts Planning before 24th October 2008. See previous messages for link......
Reply ID 35741
20/10/2008 by Pat-H
I have mixed views on this.
One one hand I think it's a crying shame the current house and out buildings aren't in use.
On the other I can appreciate that over development would cause problems.
But I can't see any value in what's left of the old mill just rotting away.
Reply ID 35769
21/10/2008 by Newfy
I agree totally. Leaving what's left of the Mill foundations to rot is no benefit to anyone. Perhaps the developer should restore the Mill House and Garage for which he was granted planning permission in 2000 and utilise all the out buildings on site. Instead they are trying to create 18 additional residences/workshops/residential moorings to line their pockets, without any regard for the access, the damage to our green belt or the loss of wildlife habitat caused by such an over development..............
The key message here being "appropriate development" instead of "over development!!!!!!"
Reply ID 35783
22/10/2008 by Justme
I am completely with Pat-H on this one and can't think of anything more appropriate to add than what he has already said.
quote:
Originally posted by Pat-H
I have mixed views on this.
One one hand I think it's a crying shame the current house and out buildings aren't in use.
On the other I can appreciate that over development would cause problems.
But I can't see any value in what's left of the old mill just rotting away.
Reply ID 35787
22/10/2008 by olive
quote:
Originally posted by Newfy
I agree totally. Leaving what's left of the Mill foundations to rot is no benefit to anyone. Perhaps the developer should restore the Mill House and Garage for which he was granted planning permission in 2000 and utilise all the out buildings on site. Instead they are trying to create 18 additional residences/workshops/residential moorings to line their pockets, without any regard for the access, the damage to our green belt or the loss of wildlife habitat caused by such an over development..............
The key message here being "appropriate development" instead of "over development!!!!!!"
Exactly , but one has to wonder why the site has been left to rot for 8 years during a property boom and then this application comes now as we go into recession.
Reply ID 35891
26/10/2008 by Spirit
An update on this - I went for a walk today and went past ware mill site, there are posters everywhere objecting and on the posters it says they are planning to have a restaurant there as well! plus they want planning permission for a carpark and mooring rights etc. it seems this development has now grown rapidly - looking at the date to have objections in was 20th october - I sincerely hope that this does not go ahead. Having the rights to open a restaurant there (yes the views would be nice) but it is just one step to then converting the restaurant to a pub - feel so sorry for the residents there. This place has historical value and to put a block of flats there will totally change the picturesque setting - I don't object if they were just going to convert these buildings as they are into livable accommodation but these developers obviously have big plans!
Reply ID 35892
26/10/2008 by Spirit
In addition to my earlier comment - the big white house which is situated on the same side of ware park mill has several of these posters free to take in a plastic wallet outside their house - it is also going to affect wildlife habitat as they are going uproot trees bushes etc in the surrounding area if these developers have their way. in a tongue in cheek remark if we complain too much maybe this will be approved by the local council and we the taxpayers will have to pay for objecting! over to you craig[V]
Reply ID 36427
18/11/2008 by Newfy
An update for you!!
We are pleased to say that 4 out of the 5 planning applications have been refused. This includes applications for the residential moorings, Barn Conversion, Garage conversion to dwelling plus studio and erection of boathouse for use as studio/flat/workshop.
This leaves the MAIN planning application (for the Mill and Mill House Restoration to a 5 story block of flats) still to be decided. Due to it's size it has to go to the East Herts District Council Committee mtg which we have been advised will be heard at the agenda on 17th Dec 2008. (Venue TBC) This mtg is open to the public if you wish to attend. One of the residents from the area has been given a 3 min slot to convince the council not to grant permission for the flats.They obviously include other factors as well.....
The dead line for objections has now past but any support on the 17th Dec will be gratefully received. I will post the exact details of the meeting as soon as I have received them!
Reply ID 36435
19/11/2008 by steve
I see no planning application for a restaurant. What is that claim based on?
Reply ID 36442
19/11/2008 by olive
If the planning meeting cycle is maintained that meeting will be at Stortford, which is a real pain compared to Hertford where tonight's dev control meeting is
Reply ID 36460
19/11/2008 by Newfy
When we viewed the plans at East Herts Council it detailed a "Restaurant Boat" on the plans...............I'm not sure if these are still available to view though as the application has been refused.
quote:
Originally posted by steve
I see no planning application for a restaurant. What is that claim based on?
Reply ID 36461
19/11/2008 by trev
There was a restaurant included in the application. That's one reason why the parking was deemed to be inadequate.
Reply ID 36462
19/11/2008 by Spirit
back in october when I posted an update here the posters that were everywhere by EHC did say on them that a restaurant was also planned - none of the residents along the road want this.
Reply ID 41176
17/07/2009 by Cuthbert
What's the latest on this?
Reply ID 41178
17/07/2009 by spear
They are appealing the refusal I believe.
(does anyone else get this feeling of Deja vous)
Reply ID 42354
09/09/2009 by boatman
Anyone have any more new on what is happening
Reply ID 42361
09/09/2009 by olive
Appeal is next week I believe. The site has all been mechanically cleared in the last couple of weeks as oppsoed to the weedkilling of the last couple of years.
Reply ID 42393
10/09/2009 by olive
Wednesday 16 Sept at 10 at EHDC offices in Hertford
Reply ID 43780
07/11/2009 by spear
Good site for an incinerator, you could bring the waste by river - very eco friendly
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