Sun and Harrow to be Care Home

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Sun and Harrow to be Care Home

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The Mercury reports the Sun and Harrow will be knocked down to build a care home. http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/H ... 093724.htm

Glad that something is finally happening with the site.
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Isn't it listed?
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IGS wrote:Isn't it listed?
Seriously? I can't think of anything about the building that would merit it being listed (which it isn't, BTW) :)

At the risk of veering off-topic , the list of all Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest in Ware can be found at
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk ... shire/ware
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IGS wrote:Isn't it listed?
Based on recent experience, would this make any difference?

The record of EHDC on listed buildings is not good.
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Thanks for that link Steve, interesting.
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Steve wrote:
IGS wrote:Isn't it listed?
Seriously? I can't think of anything about the building that would merit it being listed (which it isn't, BTW) :)

At the risk of veering off-topic , the list of all Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest in Ware can be found at
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk ... shire/ware
Interesting site. Saw that the old Musley Infants School building is listed - look at the state of that!
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tonyappleton wrote:
Steve wrote:
IGS wrote:Isn't it listed?
Seriously? I can't think of anything about the building that would merit it being listed (which it isn't, BTW) :)

At the risk of veering off-topic , the list of all Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest in Ware can be found at
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk ... shire/ware
Interesting site. Saw that the old Musley Infants School building is listed - look at the state of that!
That was my point, EHDC do nothing so listing has no effect - Musley is a wreck and none of the promised work has been done, only a matter of time before it is demolished.

The independent chapel is another where EHDC have done nothing.

If EHDC contact them owners put the council off with vague promises and the council go "Oh that's alright then" and go away. Years later nothing has changed.
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The Masked Woler wrote:That was my point, EHDC do nothing so listing has no effect - Musley is a wreck and none of the promised work has been done, only a matter of time before it is demolished.

The independent chapel is another where EHDC have done nothing.

If EHDC contact them owners put the council off with vague promises and the council go "Oh that's alright then" and go away. Years later nothing has changed.
I don't think picking on two isolated cases is representative. I could similarly pick out cases where the District Council have taken enforcement action and even prosecuted. Picking on individual cases and making generalisations without being fully aware of the facts of a particular case, and then presenting them as representative of the council's conduct, is unfair and distorted.
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Steve wrote:
The Masked Woler wrote:That was my point, EHDC do nothing so listing has no effect - Musley is a wreck and none of the promised work has been done, only a matter of time before it is demolished.

The independent chapel is another where EHDC have done nothing.

If EHDC contact them owners put the council off with vague promises and the council go "Oh that's alright then" and go away. Years later nothing has changed.
I don't think picking on two isolated cases is representative. I could similarly pick out cases where the District Council have taken enforcement action and even prosecuted. Picking on individual cases and making generalisations without being fully aware of the facts of a particular case, and then presenting them as representative of the council's conduct, is unfair and distorted.

I agree that "making generalisations without being fully aware of the facts of a particular case, and then presenting them as representative of the council's conduct, is unfair and distorted." which is why I haven't done it.
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mb1 wrote:Thanks for that link Steve, interesting.
I'll second that 8-) (as an aside, many years ago I was lead to believe that the boxed in alcove on the downstairs south wall of No 39 Baldock Street - currently 'Quality Pizza' concealed a listed fireplace, the listing on the site for 37/39 Baldock Street seems to discount that? )
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