Topic ID 1950
Ok saw something today that I thought was very odd, and to be honest made me a little sick, not to mention *issed me off. Walking back from the train station back to the town, walking past SKY, I saw the usual SKY nightclub pick up truck outside the chip shop. Inside the vehicle Window? A blue disabled badge. What's wrong with this you may ask? Well, I saw the driver of the vehicle (one of the owners) walk (Not hobble or in a wheel chair) into building site and stated helping out the builders! The good news? The local traffic wardens soon clocked onto this and the next thing I knew a police car pulled up outside the nightclub, and I presume they had some quite words. I would love to know what the outcome was, but I decided to go home for my tea at that point. I don't mind saying on this occasion - hurrah for Traffic Wardens!
Reply ID 20553
Yeah - good on them.....and what a STUPID vehicle to have, who needs to drive something that big - what are they scared they will get stuck in a monsoon or something....doubt it - hope Herts council do something good this year and tax the living hell out of them like London councils!
Reply ID 20556
I agree waretown. The amount of people I see driving 'Chelsea tractors' on the school run who do not live out in the country and have to drive less than a mile is shocking. What happened to walking your kids to school? We walk every day. Its even more amazing when you see them scraping ice of the windscreen to drive round the corner. How lazy is that?! Also, what about the damage to the environment with all these gas guzzling cars? Tax them I agree. I will get off my soap box now.
Reply ID 20558
Not sure about the Hurrah for traffic wardens. They're still evil. Pick up trucks in small towns really do bug me. I mean, apart from : "Oooo look at me, aren't I rich, doesn't this make me look powerful, look how much money I've got, look how big my shlong is".... I mean, WHY ?! Did the truck have the usual, chavvy kiddie-killers... sorry, Bull bars on the front as well ? Icing on the cake. As for the disabled badge with a perfectly abled body driver - now THAT really takes the P !!!! SHAME ON SKY.
Reply ID 20565
quote:They have it to look kewell. (Folk who feel the needs for this kind of car are often unlikely to be able to spell words like "cool" properly)
Originally posted by waretown
what a STUPID vehicle to have, who needs to drive something that big?
Reply ID 20568
quote:Yes I really hate seeing vehicles equipped with child mashers (sorry bull bars) as well. Particularly when they are driven by parents doing the school run!
Originally posted by Monkee
Did the truck have the usual, chavvy kiddie-killers... sorry, Bull bars on the front as well ?
Reply ID 20570
Monkee, with all your emphasis on karma and spiritual values, I am surprised to see you calling any group of people 'evil', even in jest. [:)] Traffic wardens are only doing their job and some local people have welcomed the fact that so many parking places are freed up and turned over quickly now that parking regs are properly enforced. An old dear living near me, who can't walk far, had all but given up driving to Ware or Hertford in the days of the parking free-for-all (when people could park all day in a 30-minute space etc), but now she can pop out and find a short-stay space most of the time. On Blue badges, it is worth noting that some kinds of mental illness and learning disability qualify a person or their carer for a Blue badge. Also, conditions that badly affect mobility aren't always visible in a limp or a need to use crutches or a wheelchair. Someone who can walk perfectly well, just not very far (e.g. because of a lung condition) might qualify for a blue badge. I don't know whether this applies to the owner of Sky [;)][:)] but the point I'm making is that just because someone can walk OK, doesn't mean they aren't entitled to a disabled parking permit.
Reply ID 20571
The Traffic Wardens and Police now have the power to check that any Blue Disabled Badge in use and being displayed in any car, is for the person whose photo is shown on the back of the badge, with a penalty of £1000 fine for fruad and misuse. There are apparantly counterfeit badges around as well as legit ones.The depths some people go to!
Reply ID 20574
The last time we were without traffic wardens cars were parked all day on both sides of the road at Amwell End and anywhere else that was available. Probably drivers commuting into London. I often wondered how far they had driven to park there.
Reply ID 20575
Surfer - it's called 'humour' my lovely petal [:D]. Yeah, I generally am a fairly spiritual person. But does spirituality mean floating around on a wee cloud with hands in prayer-mode, looking up, with a golden glow being all holier-than-thou. Ummm... no. All the genuinely spiritual people I know (as opposed to those who just think they are or do float about on clouds) have a deeply wicked and often slightly dark sense of humour with tongue firmly in cheek. I am no exception, lol. I ain't no Saint, but I ain't no Sinner neither. He he !! Now, spiritual values - that's a WHOLE different story. And not for this site perhaps (especially after the whole School Uniform debate, lol. I don't think some people are ready to accept free-thinking spiritual values yet for Mankind, but hey ho maybe in time.) My spiritual values are perhaps a bit different to what most people think should be 'spiritual values'. For a start, they're not religious. Anyways, whatever. Traffic wardens remember are on commission now and have almost no discretion. This is not a good direction to be in really. Ok, tickets should probably be handed out in most cases, but I object to some crafty tactics employed to simply raise more revenue. As for the blue badge owner of the pickup truck actually requiring a blue badge, who knows.... hmmm, remains to be seen for me personally.
Reply ID 20576
I walked by SKY last night and noticed the disabled badge had been removed from the offending vehicle .......
Reply ID 20578
quote:I for one am rejoicing that a local businessman has made such a complete recovery from the debilitating condition that previously afflicted him [;)][:D]
Originally posted by Justme
I walked by SKY last night and noticed the disabled badge had been removed from the offending vehicle .......
Reply ID 20579
Bet this has caused a bit of a STORM ..... or is it just pie in the SKY?
Reply ID 20586
Haaaaaallelujah !! Praise the Lord, it must be a miracle... he must be HEALED !! Can I get an Amen in the House tonight ?!
Reply ID 20587
quote:As SR has said, it's possible that the owner has another disability that isn't so apparent to the casual onlooker. Is it not possible that the Disable Badge has NOT been removed but is instead kept out of sight when it's not being used? Perhaps it was in the glove compartment.
I walked by SKY last night and noticed the disabled badge had been removed from the offending vehicle
Reply ID 20605
It was being used wednesday (07/02/07) in Amwell end at 2pm and had the wheel turned to 2 hours waiting.
Reply ID 20648
Typical small town people with small town views.... He's got a flash car with a disabled badge....blah blah blah don't you people have anything better to do with your time? Have you not got jobs to go to rather than looking at what other people are doing all day? and do I detect a hint of jealousy here??!!! mmmm think so! They are nightclub owners that have worked hard and done well for themselves and are entitled as is anyone to own any car that they want! Have you considered the fact that maybe he bought the car because he liked it and the fact that the car is large means that he can provide bigger advertising for his business..... He probably doesn't own the car as a representation of his 'schlong' size (as you put it 'monkee') You really do have too much time on your hands to be giving this so much thought!!! Have people not got bigger things to be worrying about in life? Also, like 'surfer rose'rightly said, just because the owner of the vehicle could walk properly doesn't meant that he doesn't have a disability, there could be a number of reasons as to why he has the disabled badge. Although some of YOU should apply for a disabled badge, sounds like lots of you would be eligable, after all you do have a rather severe disability......JEALOUSY!! P.S I BET THIS 'BIG' AND 'POINTLESS' 'CHELSEA TRACTOR' WAS ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND IN THE SNOW A LOT SAFER ADN EASIER THAN SOME OF YOUR CARS!!!!!
Reply ID 20651
Welcome to WOL ilovelife. I think you'll find many different views expressed in the posts if you read the posts. I agree that a disabled driver whouldn't be limited as to what car they drive.
Reply ID 20654
Hi ilovelife, and welcome to Wareonline. This thread was started because a WOLiner thought they'd seen someone performing the obnoxious act of pretending to have a disability so that they can gain a beneficial parking space. Now we don't know if this is true or not but as Justme has said the disabled badge is no longer in the offending car which possibly leads us to thinking the worst. However Cod has seen it being used in what seems to be a normal fashion. Unless of course you know different and can enlighten us. Playing the jealousy card often says more about you than the person or persons you're directing it at because you're judging everyone else by your standards. Are you saying that just because people criticise a choice that someone else has made they're driven by jealousy? If this is such a meaningless and humdrum topic as you suggest then why are you bothering to comment on it? You're right when you say that people can spend their money how they wish, however in a free country I think that it's quite acceptable for people to have their decisions (like buying a 4x4) criticised. I like a lot of people choose not to spend my money on a 4x4 or pick up truck or similar because we consider them unnecessary, dangerous, environmentally unfriendly, and completely stupid. I accept that they do make sense for a few people that do off-road driving but seeing as most of stick to the tarmac most of the time they do seem a bit idiotic.
Reply ID 20657
Welcome to Ware Online Ilovelife. I can totally understand why the owner has this choice of transport. It's a huge, mobile advertising board and is obviously a company car. Wherever it goes - it turns heads, either because people think it fab, or they think it's "one of those 4x4s". Either way, the drivers legitimacy for owning a blue badge can only be speculation. If it's still being used while it is in the spotlight, it has to be valid.
Reply ID 20660
Welcome Ilovelife, It's your truck isn't it [;)]
Reply ID 20661
quote:Indeed it did, flying round the corner from Cromwell Road and up slushy Winton Road with great gusto yesterday morning (where a builder with his van took rather longer only 30 mins earlier). Mind you, the benefits of a 4x4 in this country for most folk are typically 1 or 2 days every few years. I'm happy to leave the car at home when it snows, and not have the year-round increase in risk to driver, passengers, pedestrians & environment that having a meaty 4x4 would give. I also know how to use upper & lower case characters appropriately, though that's another story...
Originally posted by ilovelife
P.S I BET THIS 'BIG' AND 'POINTLESS' 'CHELSEA TRACTOR' WAS ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND IN THE SNOW A LOT SAFER ADN EASIER THAN SOME OF YOUR CARS!!!!!
Reply ID 20662
quote:Something tells me that you have hit the nail on the head P45...either that or I bet Ilovelife has a big silly trucky car as well...;)
Originally posted by p45
Welcome Ilovelife, It's your truck isn't it [;)]
Reply ID 20666
ilove life.......Wareonline welcomes anyone to air their views on local matters, of which this is one. We, including you, are all entitled to our own opinions on the topics that are raised and most of us respect others' opinions, even if we don't agree with them. However, trading insults is not one of the aims of the forum so may I suggest that a different attitude to your contributions might be in order. And anyway, if this is such a small town with small town people with small town views, why are you so interested?
Reply ID 20668
oh dear dear dear someone has hit a nerve with this one. haven't you got anything else to do as your writing on here now too? haven't you got bigger and better things to worry about either??? get over it, its call an OPINION love. not everyone agrees with everyone if they did life would be boring.
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Originally posted by ilovelife
Typical small town people with small town views.... He's got a flash car with a disabled badge....blah blah blah don't you people have anything better to do with your time? Have you not got jobs to go to rather than looking at what other people are doing all day? and do I detect a hint of jealousy here??!!! mmmm think so! They are nightclub owners that have worked hard and done well for themselves and are entitled as is anyone to own any car that they want! Have you considered the fact that maybe he bought the car because he liked it and the fact that the car is large means that he can provide bigger advertising for his business..... He probably doesn't own the car as a representation of his 'schlong' size (as you put it 'monkee') You really do have too much time on your hands to be giving this so much thought!!! Have people not got bigger things to be worrying about in life? Also, like 'surfer rose'rightly said, just because the owner of the vehicle could walk properly doesn't meant that he doesn't have a disability, there could be a number of reasons as to why he has the disabled badge. Although some of YOU should apply for a disabled badge, sounds like lots of you would be eligable, after all you do have a rather severe disability......JEALOUSY!! P.S I BET THIS 'BIG' AND 'POINTLESS' 'CHELSEA TRACTOR' WAS ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND IN THE SNOW A LOT SAFER ADN EASIER THAN SOME OF YOUR CARS!!!!!
Reply ID 20669
I'd better go out and buy myself one of these cars if it's safer to drive in at least two inches of snow.
Reply ID 20682
Riiiight, let's see...
quote:In case you hadn't noticed, this is a forum for Ware. Ware is a small town. If you don't like small towns, or indeed Ware - you can always go elsewhere (?) I love the way you label us as 'you people' despite the fact you're ALSO here debating on the forum. So, YOU are as much a part of 'you people' as anyone else here. Casually passing a truck and mentioning a possible disability badge misuse on a forum does not constitute "looking at what other people are doing all day". And if it was a case of a blue badge being misused, then yes that does deserve a mention.
Typical small town people with small town views.... He's got a flash car with a disabled badge....blah blah blah don't you people have anything better to do with your time? Have you not got jobs to go to rather than looking at what other people are doing all day?
quote:I can't speak for anyone else here, but I can say with 100% sincerity, NO I do NOT have a hint of jealousy for a gas-guzzling vehicle whose soul image is : "Look at me I'm big and mean, get outta my way - look at my disregard of child road safety with my bull bars and complete contempt of the environment with my whacking great pollution machine, not to mention blocking the roads unnecessarily". Do not mistake jealousy for frustration and annoyance. If I won the Lotto, I'd still drive a small, compact, economical and hopefully as green a car as I could find. I have nothing to prove, so I don't need a big pickup truck. The fact is, they are a NUISANCE to small towns and the environment.
and do I detect a hint of jealousy here??!!! mmmm think so!
quote:Whether he owns it or not is irrelevant. It's all about the image. At some point, someone made the decision to buy that big gas guzzler for the macho 'look at me' image. Great for advertising, not so great for town road congestion and the environment. I still think people who buy those types of trucks think they have something to prove.
He probably doesn't own the car as a representation of his 'schlong' size (as you put it 'monkee')
quote:Actually, I type and think very quickly indeed, so it doesn't take that much time to be honest. I have as much right to say what I think and I make no apologies for that. You don't like it ? don't read it. Simple.
You really do have too much time on your hands to be giving this so much thought!!! Have people not got bigger things to be worrying about in life?
quote:Ok, so I admit at present it is down to speculation. But it does seem a bit suspicious that after a traffic warden apparently requested a police visit, the blue badge has suddenly disappeared from sight according to some people here. Who knows.
Also, like 'surfer rose'rightly said, just because the owner of the vehicle could walk properly doesn't meant that he doesn't have a disability, there could be a number of reasons as to why he has the disabled badge.
quote:I will say it again LOUD AND CLEAR. I am NOT jealous of a member-extension, child road safety threatening, congestion exaccerbating, environment-killing monster machine.
Although some of YOU should apply for a disabled badge, sounds like lots of you would be eligable, after all you do have a rather severe disability......JEALOUSY!!
quote:Actually, I drove to Welwyn in my moderately-sized, non-bull bar, fairly fuel efficient car with no problems at all. 1 day of snow per year does not really provide enough of a reason to buy a pickup truck. If we lived in Alaska, it might be a different story. You know folks, I think the latest Dodge Caliber advert sums up beautifully the mentality of many pickup truck owners. Is the image about being polite, nice, courteous, compassionate and caring ? Or is it about being 'seen' to be a mean, non-caring and proud to be a complete and obnoxious so and so ? You decide.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw8wa2H4O4g&mode=related&search= *Cute cuddly creatures around a Dodge Caliber* Sales woman - "So, what do you think guys ?" Cuddly creatures - "Don't get me wrong, but it doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside" "Yeah, I find it dark and disturbing" "It's neither cuddly nor wuddly" "It just made me wet my pants" *guys in hidden booth* "Perfect !!!" *Enter Slogan* "The all new Dodge Caliber" I think that sums up the mentality perfectly there. In fact, whenever I see this ad, I always think they should've added the strap-line : "Become a complete ****. Drive a Dodge Caliber". Lord Asriel - You have put things perfectly. [:D] May I shake your hand there fella ? BTW ilovelife - never wind up the Monkee ... This monkee BITES through the cage !! lol
P.S I BET THIS 'BIG' AND 'POINTLESS' 'CHELSEA TRACTOR' WAS ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND IN THE SNOW A LOT SAFER ADN EASIER THAN SOME OF YOUR CARS!!!!!
Reply ID 20685
quote:only we're allowed to do that!
Originally posted by Monkee BTW ilovelife - never wind up the Monkee ...
Reply ID 20720
'Ang on, 'ang on, 'ang on ! I was having a look for info on the possible new cinema in Ware when i came across this stuff about 4x4 vehicles.Now , I am known to be a bit of an old hippy with pretty good green credentials and have been knitting me own yogurt etc,etc since the early seventies,and as a family we are very aware of enviromental issues .....but..... my son in law is a self employed builder with a partner and 2 kids,they had a real dilemma, how to move building gear and family around. They have really fretted over this ! In the end they have chosen to have ONE vehicle , which does both things as the pick up truck has a cab for 4 at the front and good load carrying at the back,the only thing they could find was the 4x4.He definitely does not have this vehicle to make a statement about any of his attributes. It 's a workhorse and does it's job. Please let's remember next time we see 4x4 users that there are some exceptions to the stereotype [though not many I would agree !]
Reply ID 20731
Volvo Estate ? or.... he could have become the most DREADED of all road users, just a notch up from the 4x4 drivers... *drum roll*.... WHITE VAN MAN !!! And then one of the key selling points of driving a big white van with 'clean me' written in grime on the back is that you'e exempt from the Highway Code and most laws in general !! Great fun !! he he !! [:D]
Reply ID 20733
The Mercury nicks the story again, P21!!
Reply ID 20736
Builders & pickup trucks? I don't any problem with that combo as it's fit for purpose, just as it is for farmers. But there's never any danger of us lumping them in as irresponsible users, as you can recognise a pickup truck or 4WD which is genuinely needed the moment you see it as it'll be (typically) old, dirty, and full of tools/equipment/cargo. The problem ones are typically new, shiny, driven by yummy mummy/shiny suit man/poser, with no cargo other than 2.3 children. Chalk and cheese!
Reply ID 20738
i don't really care what people drive, for me the problem is more mindlessly using the car (ie to drive a few hundred yards rather than walking). That and blocking the pavement as well as the roads [:(]
Reply ID 20754
2.3 children ? Is that like 2 children... then some small meaty pieces of a child that have carved away, making the .3rd bit ? Kinda like Kebab style ?
Reply ID 20768
Just a bit of topical info from the BBC web site.
Reply ID 20830
Fair enough if you are a builder/plumber/chippy (one of those trades) i can understand the need for a vehicle like that. But for someone who owns a nightclub, i really dont see the need!
Reply ID 20831
Maybe they need it to carry the takings to the bank every Monday morning?
Reply ID 20841
Don't waste your time with ilovelife. They came, posted, and left, never to return. I've never understood this "jealousy" argument. Why do they think that everyone wants to be like them? Soooo Nouveau Riche [:)]
Reply ID 20846
I have a gut feeling that perhaps just maybe ilovelife was someone involved with or around Sky itself. Hence getting their back up. Owner / Staff / Wife / Girlfriend / Friend Who knows, I may be wrong. But why else would someone come on to post for just 1 topic then disappear again ?