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Topic ID 5987

30/09/2012 by friant

Empty shop - what will it be?

the old lingerie shop next to Simmons seems to be having a spruce up - any ideas as to its future?


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Reply ID 68358

30/09/2012 by ELL

The builders said it was going to be a Charity Shop when we asked them yesterday.


Reply ID 68364

30/09/2012 by kate darcy

I think its the British Heart Foundation but not absolutely sure


Reply ID 68368

30/09/2012 by villager

A charity shop? In Ware? No?!


Reply ID 68370

01/10/2012 by Flatcat

It is going to be a MIND charity shop. Plans have been submitted to make alterations to the building.


Reply ID 68373

01/10/2012 by Simes

I was hoping for a pizza parlour...


Reply ID 68375

01/10/2012 by naga

...or a Pizza place where you can have your nails done, buy a 2nd hand book and drink an nice cup of coffee... [^]


Reply ID 68377

01/10/2012 by Azzza

Snore


Reply ID 68418

03/10/2012 by pierced_rose

quote:
Originally posted by naga
...or a Pizza place where you can have your nails done, buy a 2nd hand book and drink an nice cup of coffee... [^]
Haha just what we need! Ware seems to be overun with Charity Shops, Pubs, Takeaways and not much else!


Reply ID 68420

03/10/2012 by skippy

So you would rather it was a high street full of empty units then?


Reply ID 68422

03/10/2012 by pierced_rose

Not at all! Just making an observation. It just seems a shame that's all Ware has to offer in its high street. I would rather the shops be open and bringing in business but it would be nice to see something that we don't have here!


Reply ID 68425

03/10/2012 by VicarageRoader

What amazes me is the fact that the estate agents were asking £18k per year rent for that shop. Add to that a business rate charge of approx £7500 thats an expense of about £500 per week before you've even switched a light on. You've got to sell a lot of DVD's and second hand dresses to even begin to make some money for the charity concerned.


Reply ID 68426

03/10/2012 by Chem

Maybe they get a discounted rent? being a charity?


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03/10/2012 by mb1

They would pay a maximum of 20% of the business rate, so no more than £1500.


Reply ID 68428

03/10/2012 by Eric

I think this explains why no new small shops come to ware -after all would you remorgage your house - rent a shop -buy stock -employ staff -watch people come into your shop and then watch them walk out and go and buy it online cheaper than you can buy it- no thanks its a mugs game

quote:
Originally posted by VicarageRoader
What amazes me is the fact that the estate agents were asking £18k per year rent for that shop. Add to that a business rate charge of approx £7500 thats an expense of about £500 per week before you've even switched a light on. You've got to sell a lot of DVD's and second hand dresses to even begin to make some money for the charity concerned.


Reply ID 68432

04/10/2012 by Jacko

Charities apply to the Local Council for a reduction in the Business Rates. The Rate is determined by the Council and is discretionary for each Local Council the lowest being 0% Business Rate.


Reply ID 68433

04/10/2012 by kevin phillips bong

I actually like charity shops especially if the charity is 'a good one'. Yes I know some employees earn a lot (and why not) but I'd like to think some of my purchases help the charity. We don't actually have that many, ours are clean and you just never know what bargains are in their! - and how about Isobel's stunning window displays throughout the year?. As as said, infinitely better than empty shops and a great way of recycling.


Reply ID 68434

04/10/2012 by spear

quote:
Originally posted by VicarageRoader
What amazes me is the fact that the estate agents were asking £18k per year rent for that shop. Add to that a business rate charge of approx £7500 thats an expense of about £500 per week before you've even switched a light on. You've got to sell a lot of DVD's and second hand dresses to even begin to make some money for the charity concerned.
I think you under estimate what charity shops earn - the Peace Hospice shop in Chorleywood turns over more than £250,000 a year.


Reply ID 68447

04/10/2012 by VicarageRoader

quote:
Originally posted by mb1
They would pay a maximum of 20% of the business rate, so no more than £1500.
Apologies. Can't see any reason why it should be set at 20% especially if the post above is correct and one shop can turn over a quarter of a million in one year.


Reply ID 68452

04/10/2012 by mb1

The 20% rate is the maximum councils are allowed to charge charities. they can charge less. Some charity shops make a LOT of profits. Oxfam shops as a whole made a profit of £90m in the last financial year, which is a mere £120k profit per shop on average.


Reply ID 68460

04/10/2012 by Jacko

"Apologies. Can't see any reason why it should be set at 20% especially if the post above is correct and one shop can turn over a quarter of a million in one year." Because its Not for Profit and would be empty otherwise.


Reply ID 68462

04/10/2012 by VicarageRoader

quote:
Originally posted by Jacko
"Apologies. Can't see any reason why it should be set at 20% especially if the post above is correct and one shop can turn over a quarter of a million in one year." Because its Not for Profit and would be empty otherwise.
How about some incentives for small businesses?


Reply ID 68463

04/10/2012 by skippy

quote:
How about some incentives for small businesses?
What's the point with incentives for new business All you read on the forum is complaints that the range is not large enough or the prices too high and "I use the Hertford/harlow/ hoddesdon supermarkets" Locals do not use them and therefore lose them. then complain that we only get businesses that can actually survive because of what they are


Reply ID 68465

05/10/2012 by kevin phillips bong

quote:
"Locals do not use them and therefore lose them. then complain that we only get businesses that can actually survive because of what they are"
What local shops have actually shut?? National chains and retirement has caused a few to shut recently - now many have re-opened. A lot of local people do support local shops - its just people have to travel away for mens/sports stuff and a decent supermarket (and no to ASDA on Watton Rd as its wrong location).


Reply ID 68466

05/10/2012 by Mancunian

and at Crane Mead as well, no to any supermarket down here, def agree with the having to go out to get men's stuff, Ware is pants for us blokes...


Reply ID 68467

05/10/2012 by Northsider

quote:
Originally posted by Mancunian
and at Crane Mead as well, no to any supermarket down here, def agree with the having to go out to get men's stuff, Ware is pants for us blokes...
I'm sure you can buy pants in Peacocks.[:)][:)] I did once, but prefer Matalan's, M&S or even Tesco's..... But i'm still pleased Peacocks has re-opened!


Reply ID 68476

05/10/2012 by malcmac

quote:
Originally posted by Northsider
quote:
Originally posted by Mancunian
and at Crane Mead as well, no to any supermarket down here, def agree with the having to go out to get men's stuff, Ware is pants for us blokes...
I'm sure you can buy pants in Peacocks.[:)][:)] I did once, but prefer Matalan's, M&S or even Tesco's..... But i'm still pleased Peacocks has re-opened!
I assumed from their name...men's pants were all they sold!!!


Reply ID 68513

08/10/2012 by Riverside

Steven Oates (Hertford Estate Agent) opening in William H Brown's vacated property.


Reply ID 68514

08/10/2012 by VicarageRoader

quote:
Originally posted by Riverside
Steven Oates (Hertford Estate Agent) opening in William H Brown's vacated property.
Just think, if we weren't in the middle of the worst recession in living memory, every shop in the High Street could be an Estate Agent. Happy Days!!


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