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Topic ID 6534

27/08/2013 by bats

Old man with bushy Alsatian - beware

Anyone know where the old man who sometimes wears a white hat and had a large bushy fawn coloured Alsatian live? He walks it over the farmers fields between the fireworks field and Cold Chrisymas lane? I need to speak to him about an incident yesterday (Bank Hol Monday) over there where he ran away and let his rescue dog attack my dog. Just like to see him and explain how to look after a dog properly Any help greatly received


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Reply ID 74172

27/08/2013 by bats

Just seen 3 lovely dog walkers and they all tell me he is about as nice as his dog, so please be careful if you see him out as he clearly doesn't care what his dog does, and didn't even come over to see if I was ok, he turned on his heels and ran (as best he could). also if anyone knows where he lives it'd be great Thanks all


Reply ID 74183

28/08/2013 by Zuzu1809

From the sounds of it, going round to his house to confront him probably isn't the best idea!


Reply ID 74186

28/08/2013 by tonyappleton

This old boy and his dog are a real pain. It's a rescue dog, extremely nervous and can't see another dog without going mad. It's owner also looks very nervous whenever he sees anyone, and he really struggles to control it. I've come across him almost every weekend when we take our dog there for a runaround. Our dog is very sociable and will always run up to other dogs to say hello and to play. So when I see this unfriendly Alsation with it's cowering owner I put our dog back on the lead. The old chap said to me "Oh I'm glad someone has some sense round here to put their dog on the lead" I told him that the only reason I take him there is to let him off the lead so he can run around with no traffic about. He said that he'd reported several people to the dog warden (I didn't know there was one) for letting their dogs run free. I then told him that he was being selfish taking his dog there as it affects everyone else as they have to put their dog back on the lead when they see him. I also told him that if his dog can't be trusted to be off the lead then he shouldn't take it there and should stick to the streets where all the other dogs will be leashed. Is your dog ok?


Reply ID 74190

28/08/2013 by REG

I have seen an old man who shuffles along with a very angry aggressive alsation in Ware. The guy has told me his dog does not like other dogs and for me to keep my dog away. I keep my dog on a lead in town etc but it is clear this man has no control on his dog-could this be the same guy?


Reply ID 74194

29/08/2013 by Andy B

There is a Dog Warden and three years ago when I left Ware it was a pleasant young lady, you can contact the Warden via the council web site. The Warden has powers that can deal with the elderly fellow and his GSD, rescue dog or not it should be sociably acceptable. Just a little Alsatian/German Shepherd fact. GSD's were first bought back to the UK at the end of the first world war and due to the ant-German feeling they could not be called German Shepherd Dogs so as they were coming from the Alsatian region that's what they called them.


Reply ID 74234

01/09/2013 by bats

Thanks people, great responses. Tonyappleton may I ask where you've seen him? I'm determined to speak to him about his behaviour, my dog is OK thanks a little shaken and cautious around other dogs now, shame as she is such a friendly dog and loves a play. The guy needs telling, so any info greatly received from anyone Thanks again everyone


Reply ID 74235

02/09/2013 by tonyappleton

I've only ever seen him in the fireworks fields and surrounding fields. Have seen him approach the area from fanhams hall road direction. Good luck.


Reply ID 74237

02/09/2013 by mary39

It doesn't sound like a good rescue if they give an old infirm man an aggressive dog. I have seen him in the field behind new houses on old Trinity School. I keep my dogs on lead so as not to upset anyone. His dog nearly pulled him over and we kept our distance.


Reply ID 74263

03/09/2013 by bats

Thanks again tony and Mary for your help, there is a reward out for anyone who does know where he lives Mary sorry where is old trinity school? As I'm not a local


Reply ID 74268

03/09/2013 by FurtiveBertie

quote:
there is a reward out for anyone who does know where he lives
I am concerned this is turning into a witch hunt. FB


Reply ID 74270

03/09/2013 by Zuzu1809

I share your concern, FB. It does sound like he needs some education on how to handle his dog, and the dog could benefit from some training, but trying to hunt this man down so the OP can go round to his house and confront him seems rather unwise to me. Surely better to approach the dog warden and see if they could try to have a word with him? I really think offering a reward for getting an elderly man's address is not the way to handle this problem.


Reply ID 74274

03/09/2013 by bats

Burtie and zuzu please don't think or imply this is a witch hunt, IF it were it wouldn't be plastered all over a public forum. I'd like to let this gentleman know the distress he caused not only my dog, but me and my partner too. I've called the dog warden and waiting them to return my call, but from what others have said this old guy has already complained about other walkers making himself out to be the victim? Which the general consensus seems to be the complete opposite. Thanks for your concerns regarding 'witch hunts' and me 'confronting' this person, I simply want to explain how it felt last Monday to genuinely fear not only my dog and partners safety, but mine too


Reply ID 74279

03/09/2013 by Zuzu1809

I understand that, but why do you feel the need to go to his home? Can't you approach him when you see him out and about next?


Reply ID 74283

03/09/2013 by bats

The only time I've ever seen him I had my little dog and my partner with me, who were both scared witless. Chances are he'll have his Alsatian with him, and as usual it'll probably be A) off the lead, and B) out of control like most other dog walkers agree. At least a knock on the door there's a chance the dog will be in the back garden or closed in a room indoors Given what happened to me last Monday, would you want to approach him again? Thought not.


Reply ID 74294

04/09/2013 by Andy B

I would like to emphasise that the way to go with this is via the Dog Warden, is this guy going to be reasonable when approached? I doubt it and the Warden has legal powers that the general public do not have. The Warden is paid by your taxes so please make them work for you.


Reply ID 75782

03/12/2013 by skki

Funny i have just found this thread trying to find out if the farmers fields over the back have a name as i have had an incident with an Alsatian today. This dog ran across 2 fields when it see my dog, i quickly put my dog on a lead and and stood still hoping that it would just turn back but it ran in a nd tried to attack to my i had to keep turning and hiding my little dog as it circled ua bout 10 times trying to get in as i kicked out to stop it. There was a bloke far in the distance just standing there doing nothing!!! finally when the dog ran off towards the farmers house i carried on walking and this person started to run off in the direction of cold christmas. I can only assume this is the same person? If so this cannnot carry on, how long before a dog or a child gets hurt! This was (at) 12pm today so maybe he walks this dog at the same time.


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